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SlipAngle /// Episode 104 - Robert Thorne

Austin Cabot

Episode 104 - Professional Driver Robert Thorne joins us at #Gridlife Special Stage to talk about Rocket Anti-Lag, SCCA Solo Nationals, World Challenge, and a whole host of other things.  Robert towed all the way from Colorado to Michigan for our silly time attack event..and brought one the of most bada$$ cars we've ever seen.

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An old Fiat, as a drift car....part 2...DID IT SLIDE?!

Adam Jabaay

Building a FIAT Drift Car  - the Pursuit of Lunacy

By Micheal "Ballin' " Beck

Photo credit: Scrape Yard

Photo credit: Scrape Yard


 

Part II

 

The morning of my inaugural drift event, I didn’t even want to get in the truck to drive to the track. All I could think about was the colossal idiot I was going to look like trying to drift an old FIAT. Why hadn’t I just kept my mouth shut on the podcast? If I hadn’t blabbed to the world I could back out of this and pretend like it never happened, maintaining some shred of dignity........but I didn’t do that. I had not only gabbed about it on my own podcast, I had done it on at least one, if not two others. So I was sort of committed. Podcast problems.

 

The two-hour drive to Raceway Park of the Midlands was remarkably short. So short in fact, when we arrived I looked for excuses not to open the trailer. “I have to use the restroom on the other side of the park.” “Is this trailer tire low, we should probably address this first.” But it was no use delaying the inevitable: I had to get the car out the trailer to be teched and swap tires.

 

 

This stunningly gorgeous RB20DET swapped 280z parked next to me in the paddock 

This stunningly gorgeous RB20DET swapped 280z parked next to me in the paddock

 

Our trailer has large side doors which the salesman would like you to believe allow the driver’s door of the racecar to swing open past the threshold of the trailer, allowing you to enter or exit the car more easily. That’s a lie. Well, I suppose it’s not a lie if you own a lifted Jeep or an BMW Isetta. Basically the door isn’t low enough for the car door to open fully so you to stumble very ungracefully out the side of the trailer and face plant on the ground. Also, they do a marginable job of showing off the trailer’s contents. By merely opening the side door I could see people standing in the paddock, peering inside with a puzzled look. It’s going to be a long day. I pulled the car out and parked it on the other side of the trailer and changed to the 175 General Tires I had bought on Craigslist earlier in the week. I think I was feeling a bit ambitious while prepping the car thinking the puny Twin Cam would spin the dry-rotted Toyo RA1s at full chat. With the car sitting in the paddock looking about as out of place as Richard Branson at a soup kitchen, I was surprised when someone approached me and called the 43-year-old 124 “dope”.

 

“This is dope!”

 

“What’s dope?” “This is dope?”

 

“Yeah dude this FIAT is dope.”

 

“Wait… you know this is a FIAT?”

 

“Yeah, I think this is sick dude, I can’t believe you’re going to skid this. Good luck today man, have fun”

 

Apparently I had grossly underestimated the drifting community’s penchant for style. To give further credit, the attendees of the O Drift Collective event actually knew what a FIAT was, which is more credit than I can give to many other racing associations’ attendees. “What FIAT is this?” was the most common question I got, followed by “are you going to slide this? Dude, that is sick.” My fears turned out to be completely irrational.

The driver’s meeting was quite quick. Basically they just showed us the sections of the track we were allowed to drift in the morning and in the afternoon. Due to what I assume to be insurance reasons, we were only allowed to drift two sections of the track at a given time, with the sections changing after a break for lunch. The sections consisted of two or three corners with cones to mark the start and finish. You drift the first section and then you taxi to the next. Really the whole drivers’ meeting was quite refreshing: here is where you drift, here is where you don’t, don’t run over anyone and you’ll be fine. Good enough.

 

I was oddly calm as I approached the first section. I had been out on the track before with a gentleman named Luke who had been on our show earlier in the year. I kind of got the gist of how these things were supposed to work and the speeds at which you have to enter corners. If you’re considering trying drifting for the first time, I think the most important step you can take to prepare yourself is go to an event WITHOUT your car and get some ride-alongs. You’d be surprised the speeds at which you have to take some corners. As I’m preparing to start my section, I look back and see a white WRX behind me. “Is that a camera car?” I say to the starter. “No he pulled the front axles out apparently, he’s here to drift.” Yet another example of the endless style and joie de vivre of drifters.

 

“I guess we’re seeing how long of a burnout everyone can do. So hit it when you’re ready.” Hit it I did. I was able to get the FIAT to do a burnout through first gear and into part of second with the skinny 175 section tires. After that short lived distraction, I quickly realized my first corner was approaching. I don’t have a 5/10ths switch. I don’t do sighting laps, as dangerous and childish as that may be. So I was hammering towards the first corner as quickly as the little Twin Cam would allow, knowing based on my laps with Luke that I’d probably make it through the corner without understeering off.

 

Something I quickly realized after a couple laps of the track was I was on the wrong line. Even autocrossers or occasional track day enthusiasts will have a general idea of where the fast line is in the corner. If you are anywhere near that line, you’re in the wrong spot. I wasn’t staying wide enough entering a corner and my drift initiation consisted of turning slightly sharper than I normally would on a grip line and mashing the throttle. The car will do a slight skid in this case, but it’s not the correct way to set up a proper drift, I learned.

 

It’s hard to see, but that’s smoke. Trust me it’s there.

It’s hard to see, but that’s smoke. Trust me it’s there.

Around lunch time, Luke joined me on the track for a little instruction. Luke opened up my line and fixed my initiation. The key to starting a good skid, especially in a low powered car, is to do what you’ve probably heard of as a “Scandinavian flick”, or quickly turning away from the corner and immediately flicking the car the other way and applying throttle. This “flick” upsets the chassis and makes the car oversteer much more easily. Once I got a feel for the correct initiation, we started working on transitions. A transition is starting a drift in one direction, getting the car to grip, and then initiating a drift in the other direction in two (or more) subsequent turns, such as a chicane. This is extremely difficult. The Fiat, despite its skinny tires and 205 Toyo RA-1s on the front, kept wanting to grip in the rear and push the car off the track when I tried to transition from the first drift to the second. In a car with more power, this would be less of an issue. Luke taught me a handy technique called clutch kicking (which is exactly what it sounds like) can send abrupt power to the rear wheels and mitigate some of the tendency for the rear tires to bite. It’s quite good fun, but, again, my seven years of grip racing experience was hard to overcome: hovering my foot over the clutch in preparation to kick it was a hard habit to begin to form.

 

I wish I could say after a day on the track that I had a breakthrough moment and was able to effortlessly shred the Generals to bits, white smoke billowing, enveloping myself and the standing crowd in a haze symbolizing my driving prowess. But I was only able to do a few half-decent skids, nothing overly flashy, but quite satisfying. The FIAT had done it, despite all odds against it and my own reservations. While we were waiting in one of the staging lanes, Luke told me the car felt quite a bit like a KA 240SX, which I took as high praise. It was just after 3pm when I put the car back in the trailer, despite having 2 hours of track time still available. The car had been thrashed at its absolute limit for the past 5 hours and I decided not to push my luck any longer. It performed flawlessly.

 

just incase you didn't see it before....this is an ancient Fiat drifting.  on purpose.  

just incase you didn't see it before....this is an ancient Fiat drifting.  on purpose.  

Though I had an absolutely fantastic time, I think the inaugural FIAT drifting event will be the car’s last. I may decide to attend one more event in October, but I feel the car deserves to be converted back to a grip car and the RX7 can take the reigns as the Ten Tenths Drift Missile.


Michael Beck lives in a world of automotive lunacy. In 2009 when he decided to start autocrossing, he passed on buying a Miata or a CRX and bought an old FIAT 124 with a stuck engine. After somehow successfully turning the old FIAT into a car nearly as fast as a Miata, he decided to build a track day car. Naturally, he bought an old RX7 out of someone’s backyard and through some shady craigslist dealings, acquired a nearly-free LT1 from a police car. Michael is co-host of Ten Tenths Podcast.

Gridlife South: A sleep deprived road trip week in random pictures....

Adam Jabaay

                                                                  Photos by Luis Villalobos, Mikey Bryzzzzinskiski, and my Adam's phone

just so cool in person.  Forsberg, Tuerck, Gitten Jr, Rob Parsens, etc.

just so cool in person.  Forsberg, Tuerck, Gitten Jr, Rob Parsens, etc.

Around 13 or 14 months ago, Chris Stewart, founder of Gridlife, and myself, Motorsports Director, flew down to Road Atlanta to see what that place was about... because they asked us to potentially do a Gridlife Festival there.  I rapidly became obsessed with the track, traveling across the country a couple times in the last year to race there, and hopping airplanes too many times to do things to prepare for this event.  All in all, it was a pretty successful first Road Atlanta event for the ever-growing, ever-evolving company we call Gridlife, and we think it built a pretty good audience for a first year thing.  Amazing time attack sessions happened with our TrackBattle series , the third and final round of the year for us. Full sessions of beginner, intermediate, and advanced/instructor groups spent 3 days lapping the amazing facility (with almost NO incidents....maybe they really listened in my drivers meetings, and paid attention to the advice of the workers in grid!), and the drifters put on some of the best shows we've ever seen.  This was the first time drifters (including some of the top pros in the world) were ever allowed to drift the full course, and if you haven't seen the videos, check them out.  Weeks later my Facebook feed is still clogged up with videos of them and the incredible spectacle they put on. 

One of the best parts of each Road Atlanta trip this year , for me, has been getting to spend it with a different group of buddies.  This trip, Rambler's Racing Team, a bunch of my closest track friends , piled in trucks and left from my house in Chicago.  We bombed south all night, and arrived the next day around noon.  Long nights on road trips are almost impossible to forget, yet I'm glad we had some legitimate photographers with us to take weird and random pictures.  Instead of a million pictures of the cars, and smokey drift party, etc, here is a sampling of the completely sleep depriving and unique week we had, being a part of Gridlife South.  This was a really special week in my life, and I keep hearing people say similar things. That, to me, is the mark of a successful event.  You should probably go on a road trip with your buddies soon.  Start setting it up right now. 

 

we crammed Luis and Dil's civics with tech shed, time attack, and sponsors banner stuff, and loaded them on the trailer. 

we crammed Luis and Dil's civics with tech shed, time attack, and sponsors banner stuff, and loaded them on the trailer. 

Shae being all soft drinkey

Shae being all soft drinkey

loudest. Car. Ever. 

loudest. Car. Ever. 

Dil Wang

Dil Wang

 "hi, i'm Chris Sullivan.  You've probably seen my magazine pics. I'm kind of a big deal"

 "hi, i'm Chris Sullivan.  You've probably seen my magazine pics. I'm kind of a big deal"

Dil and his brother Ashar took an ancient rad land cruiser down a few days early and had a good ole time.  Tail of dragon pic? 

Dil and his brother Ashar took an ancient rad land cruiser down a few days early and had a good ole time.  Tail of dragon pic? 

check straps. Always

check straps. Always

wtf was that ?

wtf was that ?

ohhhhh.  That.  The spare (stupid thing leaked anyway) flipped down, dragged the ground, and exploded at 70 mph. Tire rack got a replacement to me at the track ASAP. That replacement went missing for 24 hrs , being rolled around paddock.  Dan Devries , tech inspection guru staffer, general breakfast beast chef, and drinking buddy, saved the day and found it Sunday. If that spare could talk. ...   

ricers

ricers

tough guys Chris and Shae

tough guys Chris and Shae

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

laffin about Waffles or something

laffin about Waffles or something

black and white tough guys, for more emotional emotions

black and white tough guys, for more emotional emotions

ricers

ricers

mikey being perpetually happy on track weekends

mikey being perpetually happy on track weekends

 "yo Adam how far down do those attachments swing?" ....."boutthis far"

 "yo Adam how far down do those attachments swing?" ....."boutthis far"

 "whatcha thinkin about?"

 "whatcha thinkin about?"

only 4 min of sleep I got on way down

only 4 min of sleep I got on way down

BRROOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!

BRROOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!

insane K swap Fit

insane K swap Fit

drift "grid" was in the long straight. We'd release cars from there.  We'd also take super lame photos. 

drift "grid" was in the long straight. We'd release cars from there.  We'd also take super lame photos. 

austin brushing his teeth at 3 am.  Sweet

austin brushing his teeth at 3 am.  Sweet

cell phone concert pic 

cell phone concert pic 

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 "hey Waka , want to be my first selfie? Cool"

 "hey Waka , want to be my first selfie? Cool"

liked that last terrible cell phone pic? Here's another!

liked that last terrible cell phone pic? Here's another!

happy people

happy people

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ryan tuerck's car is lit I guess

ryan tuerck's car is lit I guess

strap work. Always

strap work. Always

levi and Ballard were tired

levi and Ballard were tired

chill Dil

chill Dil

Chris Ballard doing something

Chris Ballard doing something

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAÀAAAAAAAA

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAÀAAAAAAAA

 "sure grant, I'll take your stinky dirty clothes home while you fly in Luxury"

 "sure grant, I'll take your stinky dirty clothes home while you fly in Luxury"

strap checkin

strap checkin

this chicken sucked

this chicken sucked

locked key in truck.  Crap. Totes conquered that though. With skillz

locked key in truck.  Crap. Totes conquered that though. With skillz

another BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP shot

another BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP shot

a Dil Vid!

mico?

mico?

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Building a Fiat Drift Car

Adam Jabaay

Building a FIAT Drift Car - the Pursuit of Lunacy.....By Micheal "megabux" Beck

 

Part 1

 

Frankly, I used to find drifting a waste. A wantingly destructive motorsport, marginally edged out in it’s idiocy by NASCAR and county fairgrounds figure-eight races. Purposefully ruining tires and shredding bumpers on cars with build costs eclipsing the price of my house to no real productive conclusion seemed asinine. It’s incredibly difficult for me to admit it most times (ask any of my co-hosts), but I have to swallow my pride, as bitter the medicine may be: drifting is epic. The combination of Gridlife and riding in a drift-spec GTO at an O Drift Collective event at Raceway Park of the Midlands lead to my 180. It is the embodyment of fun that is missing from most motorsports. While I know Formula D is not without it's drama, local events exist purely for the enjoyment of drivers, photographers, and spectators alike. It lacks pedigree, it lacks ego, it lacks entitlement. And I have to do it. Now.

 

Those of you that listen to our show (Ten Tenths Podcast) are aware that I am in the process of building an 86 RX7 that’s LT1/T56 swapped, but unfortunately it’s not close enough to completion to run this year. While the merging of the two wiring harnesses is quite well documented, the original RX7 wiring harness appears to have been previously owned by by Edward Scissorhands. As a result, much wire tracing needs to occur along with sorting out a tune., so it will continue to sit in the corner of the garage until winter comes when I’ll have time to work on it again.


 

If I want to try drifting this year, that leaves the previously mentioned FIAT.......and I do plan to drift this year, because I am impatient and a lunatic. I Googled “drift FIAT” and it turns out (surprise) it’s not a thing. I think I’m the only person in the history of the motorsport that thought a 124 COULD potentially drift and the only one stupid enough to try it. I’m not enough of a madman to think it’s going to be a good drift car, but it’s remarkably similar to a Miata and technically makes a bit more power, so I don’t really see what I have to lose.

 

The Preparation


 

First thing’s first: the car currently has an open differential. The limited slip for a 124 is an incredibly rare part that costs about $1500. The whole car cost less than a month's rent on a studio apartment in Manhattan and I’m too cheap to feel inclined to drop that much on a diff.   Luckily, there happened to a welded diff sitting on the shelf from a long-disassembled 124 that ran track days eons ago.  Out came the driveshaft, a quick pull of the axles and a swap the diffs. Really quite simple

.

 

The car currently had a fiberglass lip under the wrong grille that houses the front brake duct intakes. Otherwise it performs no real function than to make the car look a bit more aggressive and to make loading it on most trailers exponentially more difficult. Obviously, drifting involves many agricultural excursions and fiberglass doesn’t tend to do well with direct impacts; it had to go.


With the front lip gone, I had originally planned to remove the brake ducts. But again this is drifting: the unofficial motorsport of zipties, so strapping them to the sway bar seemed more appropriate.

 



 

I’ve never run a rear sway bar on this car very much. In tight bends it picked up the inside rear tire and spun all the power away. The car only has 140 hp on a good day; I can use all the help I can get. Losing a bit of grip in the rear by lifting a tire could be just what I needed, so the bar was reinstalled.



 

With the car put back together, I bolted up a set of 5 year old Toyo RA1s to the rear and took the car for a test run to see if it would even spin the rears or if that old, rusty diff was as destroyed as Bobby Brown’s septum. Last year when I ran this exact same setup I was snaking all over over the tight go-kart track we use for time trials; I just couldn’t get the power down and the rear was wanting to step out more times than Tiger Woods.  Thankfully not much had changed and I was able to get the car to step out in second gear… this might just work.



 

Stay tuned for Part 2 to see if Michael’s Ludacris plan actually pans out…

 

Michael Beck lives in a world of automotive lunacy. In 2009 when he decided to start autocrossing, he passed on buying a Miata or a CRX and bought an old FIAT 124 with a stuck engine. After somehow successfully turning the old FIAT into a car nearly as fast as a Miata, he decided to build a track day car. Naturally, he bought an old RX7 out of someone’s backyard and through some shady craigslist dealings, acquired a nearly-free LT1 from a police car. Michael is co-host of Ten Tenths Podcast. He likes to tell girls he meets at bars he’s an automotive journalist and photographer.

SlipAngle /// Episode 89 - Former Spec Miata National Director, John Mueller

Austin Cabot

Episode 89 - Former NASA Spec Miata National Director was kind enough to invite Austin over a few months ago.  Many stories were told, lots of laughs were had, and almost two hours of content was recorded.  We learn about what it takes to create and run a new class, hear about a new emerging class this is SuperMiata, and various other tidbits.

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